scratching rigs..

id forgotten how long it takes to tie these...
figre 8's and stop knots aaaargh!!!

whats your fav??

jfbee wrote:id forgotten how long it takes to tie these...
figre 8's and stop knots aaaargh!!!

whats your fav??

you tie knots in the rig body?
even on a scratching rig thats a big no-no , especially watching you cast

Eeerr, no i use the 2 way beads and use powergum on the body and figure 8 's for the snoods.

Breakaway Adjustable crimps - more expensive than silicon tube but easier to put on, less messing about than Powergum or telephone wire, more adaptable than ordinary crimps.

Gets my vote every time

Double runner almost every time for me John, great little rig and takes a couple of minutes to knock up even for me who takes an age to build a pat.

Basically the bottom snood is a stopped running ledger with the snood above acting as a pulley, you can clip them down but i can't be arsed to.

Simple build and components with no crimps, stop knots or silicon and have caught plenty with them this year from minis,rays etc even my codling ignored the cod rig and took a double runner bait. Very good rig.


http://www.btinternet.com/~kevin.l.j.knight/Double_Runner.htm

Scaled down a version of your cod rig through the week for a flattie sesh and pulled in one on that clipped ledger and another on the double runner which came in on the top snood - contradictory little feck*rs aren't they.

nice looking rig, i may have to tie a couple to try out.

The rig body in that diagram is shown at four to five feet, i've never built one that long - 3ft max for me and where they use an American snap swivel i use a standard gemini lead link.

Def worth a go imo, the bite indication and hook ups seem bang on.

Use them on rolling and grip leads, the only place where i wouldn't use it as a scratcher is at Hurst Shingle Bank when the tide is ripping through when i go down to single snood rigs there but apart from that wherever i've fished i've used it and it's rarely let me down.

My version (and one of my best sellers) is 1 metre long unless they tell me where they're going to use it and what species they're targeting. I've made them over 3 metre long for use in West Scotland. They can be a bugger for tangling unless you use stiff snoods.

same rig as steves

Found that as long as the top snood is kept short enough and above the bottom swivel by a couple of inches it's fine, might have to unwrap a snood from around the swivels now and again but no more a pain than any other other rig really.

Can pay to up the snoods from the 15lb amnesia that i use if you are fishing stronger current to a stiffer ultima 20lb.

Found this double runner to be a deadly sole rig, fish with a small enough rolling weight so that it can find the pans and gullies on shallow sandy beaches with size two circles on snoods twelve to fourteen inches. Fished it alongside a ordainary sole rig which didn't get a take when the double runner was picking them up all night.

4/0 pulley pennells , no wonder i never catch anything lol !happy christmas

Interesting rig that double runner - you learn something new every day!

Big Brad wrote:same rig as steves

It's been around for many, many years. One of those "everyone thinks they invented it" rigs that actually has it's origins in traditional hand-lining from where I collected many of my rig designs.

This is the clip-down version of the rig (the imp is only used if you don't use clip-down gemini/breakaway-type weights):

For such a simple and effective rig as it is i cannot understand why it's not more popular on a beach than it is, certainly more productive for me than any flapper i used previously.

With that clipped down version Martyn are the two baits clipped down on the same link as in a bomber? Probably get around to building a few clipped DR's but it just seems to be complicating a simple rig to bother with at the minute.

Yes they just clip down together on the imp or release weight. I've found it better to clip the top snood first then the bottom snood to prevent tangling.

I've used the double runner for a few years both from the shore and on boats and as a general rig they are hard to beat, but specific rigs to match conditions or species will always have their place